O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (2024)

M. Mitchell MarmelOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Over the past few years, I've been coming up with ways of modeling various prototype and other traction layouts using O27 track and switches. Here's a sampling of some designs!


Frankford and Delaware Ave loop, Philadelphia:



Inlet carbarn, Atlantic City:


Portland Ave loop, Ventnor:


Douglas Avenue, Margate, NJ:



Longport Loop, Longport, NJ:




Willow Grove Terminal, Philadelphia:



Broad and Olney Terminal, Philadelphia:



A butterfly Grand Union:


And finally, a freelance modular layout:



Hope this inspires someone!


Mitch

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BillPOGR Forum Member

Mitchell,

Have you tried the O27 to O27 crossover that you show here?

How do your trolleys negotiate that S curve?

5/23/157:41 PM

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M. Mitchell MarmelOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Originally Posted by BillP:

Mitchell,

Have you tried the O27 to O27 crossover that you show here?

How do your trolleys negotiate that S curve?

a) Yes.

b) Mostly nicely. More lightweight cars such as the Williams Peter Witt and Lionel Birney have some difficulties, but MTH PCCs/bump and goes, Bowser/Pittman Brills and so forth have no problems. More a matter of weight, I think. O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (33)

'Course, I do tend to push the envelope and do things with O27 that God and Lionel Cowan never intended... O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (34)

Mitch

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BillPOGR Forum Member

I wonder how the Western Hobbycraft brass trolleys would fare...

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M. Mitchell MarmelOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Originally Posted by BillP:

I wonder how the Western Hobbycraft brass trolleys would fare...

Ran a New Orleans WH car across, nil problems!

One caveat: The switches need to be in very good nick; what I do, for example, is make sure they're precisely straight, and I polish the points with a Dremel and grinding wheel to make sure they're flush with the rail... O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (37)

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Nortonville PhilOGR Forum Member

I like what you are doing here Mitchell.

Here are a couple of photos from our Christmas layout from 2011.

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C.M McMahonOGR Forum Member

Love it!!

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BillPOGR Forum Member

Mitch - Good to know, thanks!

Phil - Wow I really like what you have done there.

- Do you have any photos of the other end?

- Are the trolleys block controlled for simultaneous operation?

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BillPOGR Forum Member

Also what are those three townhouse style buildings?

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BillPOGR Forum Member

Mitchell,

I really do like your sketches, especially the free-mo setup!

Are those grid lines 1 foot?

Also that 90 degree corner seems like O27 with O42?

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Nortonville PhilOGR Forum Member

Originally Posted by BillP:

Phil - Wow I really like what you have done there.

- Do you have any photos of the other end?

- Are the trolleys block controlled for simultaneous operation?

Bill, No blocks on this one the Trolleys could go into town around the loop and back out on the main line. The town house buildings you mention are the cookie tins that come out around Christmas time at Wal-Mart/Dollar Store.

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Nortonville PhilOGR Forum Member

Mitchel,

Have you ever thought of running your tinplate trolleys off powered overhead? I have thought of doing this. You would have to put a scale operating trolley pole on the roof of your cars. And erect overhead. Could run on tinplate track or handlay using code .172 rail if you could find some.

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BillPOGR Forum Member

Wow did not realize they were tins, neat!

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M. Mitchell MarmelOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Originally Posted by Nortonville Phil:

I like what you are doing here Mitchell.

Here are a couple of photos from our Christmas layout from 2011.

Sweet! O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (53)

Originally Posted by BillP:

Mitchell,

I really do like your sketches, especially the free-mo setup!

Are those grid lines 1 foot?

Also that 90 degree corner seems like O27 with O42?

1) Thankee! O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (54)

2) I believe so, yes.

3) Yep! Incidentally, O27 gives one 13.5" radius curves, which is just right for O scale traction.

Originally Posted by Nortonville Phil:

Mitchel,

Have you ever thought of running your tinplate trolleys off powered overhead? I have thought of doing this. You would have to put a scale operating trolley pole on the roof of your cars. And erect overhead. Could run on tinplate track or handlay using code .172 rail if you could find some.

Eventually, I'd like to do a combined scale/tinplate trolley layout with working overhead; most of my projects and trolleys are set up with working poles that will operated on overhead.

If only Atlas would make O27 curves and turnouts in their premium 3-rail line... O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (55)

Mitch

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A AdriaticOGR Forum Member

I've seen photos of tubular re-laid onto wood ties for tighter than o-27O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (56)

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Bill RobbOGR Forum Member

Have you paved any of your track?

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M. Mitchell MarmelOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Originally Posted by Bill Robb:

Have you paved any of your track?

Nope, but then again I haven't built a permanent trolley layout, either. O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (59)

Back in the days when I did HO trolleys, I used spackle over flex track, carving out flangeways before the spackle set.

How well this would work over O27 tubular track, present deponent knoweth not. O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (60)

Mitch

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FirewoodOGR Forum Member

If running overhead wire isn't a big interest, we can always claim that we're using the stud contact system as used in some cities back when.

This magnetic switch system supplied power through studs between the rails, sorta like Marklin, but sometimes horses and people were electrocuted by a stuck stud contact here and there....... let's just say these systems weren't around very long.

http://tinyurl.com/nmxk2p5

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stud_contact_system

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Pine Creek RailroadOGR Forum Member

Mitchell,

Thanks for trolly layout ideas for my next Christmas layout, I appreciate what you have done. Not quite sure what I want to do for my Street Car track addition yet, I do have a couple of new 036 FT Command Control Switches I plan on using on the Street Car line.I have not even tried the new 036 FT CC Switches with the MTH P2 Street Car yet. I am hoping the Pittsburgh Street Car will run thru them smoothly. I will definitely keep your fit up techniques in mind, while designing and building the street car line.

Your stuff looks great!

PCRR/Dave

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M. Mitchell MarmelOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Originally Posted by Firewood:

If running overhead wire isn't a big interest, we can always claim that we're using the stud contact system as used in some cities back when.

This magnetic switch system supplied power through studs between the rails, sorta like Marklin, but sometimes horses and people were electrocuted by a stuck stud contact here and there....... let's just say these systems weren't around very long.

Not to mention conduit, as your link mentioned above. In addition to London, NYC and Washington, DC had extensive conduit streetcar trackage, with the cars switching from conduit to poles on the outskirts of town (and I suspect that working in the trolley plow pits at such a switchover point would be prime fodder for Mike Rowe's "Dirty Jobs" show!)...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...t_current_collection

Originally Posted by Pine Creek Railroad:

Mitchell,

Thanks for trolly layout ideas for my next Christmas layout, I appreciate what you have done. Not quite sure what I want to do for my Street Car track addition yet, I do have a couple of new 036 FT Command Control Switches I plan on using on the Street Car line.I have not even tried the new 036 FT CC Switches with the MTH P2 Street Car yet. I am hoping the Pittsburgh Street Car will run thru them smoothly. I will definitely keep your fit up techniques in mind, while designing and building the street car line.

Your stuff looks great!

Thanks, Dave! Do you have the Pittsburgh Brill? If so, you can hear my mellifluous baritone announcing the station stops...

Mitch

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Bill RobbOGR Forum Member

Originally Posted by M. Mitchell Marmel:

Originally Posted by Bill Robb:

Have you paved any of your track?

Nope, but then again I haven't built a permanent trolley layout, either. O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (65)

Back in the days when I did HO trolleys, I used spackle over flex track, carving out flangeways before the spackle set.

How well this would work over O27 tubular track, present deponent knoweth not. O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (66)

Mitch

What I was thinking of was black foam-core illustration board. With O27 track like Atlas you have a black center rail and black foam board. This material is often used O gauge to make grade crossings.

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M. Mitchell MarmelOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Originally Posted by Bill Robb:

What I was thinking of was black foam-core illustration board. With O27 track like Atlas you have a black center rail and black foam board. This material is often used O gauge to make grade crossings.

H'm.

http://www.atlaso.com/images/T...stuff/3rail/6050.jpg

Yeah, I could see that working... O27 Trolley Layout Designs! (68)

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FAQs

Is O gauge and 027 the same? ›

The primary difference between the track from an appearance standpoint is the height of O Gauge track compared to that of O-27. The O Gauge rails are taller than the O-27 rails causing the train to sit higher off of the layout surface.

How tall is the O gauge track? ›

Exact scale standards

The track gauge normally used for O of 32 mm or the near-approximation 1+1⁄4 inch is for Standard gauge (1,435 mm ( 4 ft 8+1⁄2 in)) approximately equivalent to 5 ft (1,524 mm) at 1:48 scale, 4 ft 8+1⁄2 in (1,435 mm) at 1:45 and 4 ft 6+1⁄2 in (1,384 mm) at 1:43.5.

Does Lionel still make 027? ›

Lionel O27 tubular track discontinued in 2015.

What scale are old Lionel trains? ›

Lionel O-Gauge sets are electric sets that are approximately 1:48 scale and are what most people envision when the think about Lionel.

What is the tightest O gauge curve? ›

O-27 is the tightest curve available and has a diameter of 27 inches. O-27 can also be used to identify the profile of the rail which is higher than scale to better accommodate the needs of model trains. The term is also sometimes applied to all trains and tracks that operate on anything other than true O scale.

Is O gauge bigger than OO gauge? ›

The third most popular scale is O gauge, which is nearly twice the size of OO, so your four coaches and a tank engine will be seven foot long. Clearly if you are running passenger trains, you need a lot of space. Most O gauge models are small shunting layouts, as the minimum radius is 7′, and ideally more than that.

What does O gauge stand for? ›

Historically 'O' gauge referred to a track gauge of 1 1/4" or 32mm but is now almost universally taken to mean models built to a scale of 7mm to the foot or 1:43.54, usually rounded off to 1:43.5.

What Gauge is O gauge? ›

Historically 'O' gauge referred to a track gauge of 1 1/4" or 32mm but is now almost universally taken to mean models built to a scale of 7mm to the foot or 1:43.54, usually rounded off to 1:43.5.

What code is O gauge track? ›

O gauge (1-1/4 inch) track includes non-weathered nickel-silver rail with highly detailed molded brown plastic ties. Supplied in bundles of 6 curvable 36 inch long pieces. Code 148 for use on main line railroads.

Is 1 76 scale the same as OO gauge? ›

British OO gauge or OO scale as it's often referred to is a modelling standard that represents a scale of 1:76 or, in millimetres, 4mm to the foot. It is seventy-six times smaller than the actual size of the real-life item being represented.

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